Redo "Send Thanks" to make it less toxic
If the devs are not going to make "Send Thanks" auto by default so players don't need to actively click/press on it, at least make it less toxic.
It needs to be such that if you don't "Send Thanks" after a battle/trade, you cannot receive the gift from "Send Thanks" for that battle/trade as well.
It's the only fair way to do it. Otherwise, it's too toxic.
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this has been brought up before and the general consensus was that if “Thanks” became auto or forced then it loses its meaning, and the mechanic would be rendered moot. Instead of “thanks” you'd just receive a shop ticket in the reward screen after a battle.
Thanks is meant to be a self decided thing. If you feel the opponent played a good game or the match was enjoyable.
I dont see why someone not sending a thanks is toxic. I can, however, see why forcing a player to thank someone for playing a bad match would be toxic.
Imagine you join a match and your opponents goal is to min-max wasting your time. Running out the game clock to the last second, knowing their victory was almost guaranteed, abusing glitches and bugs the whole time. This would waste well over 25 minutes of your time and be undoubtedly infuriating. Then to add insult to injury you would be forced to thank them for it.
Conceding to save your time ends the same way. You forced to thank someone for wasting and disrespecting your time.
THAT would be toxic.
now tell me how the current mechanic is toxic without your argument basically boiling down to “i want more tickets faster”2 -
Part of the problem is internet and gaming culture in general. Otherwise innocuous, previously well intentioned and polite expressions (such as "good game"/gg) have been abused and used sarcastically to the point that they are now often assumed to be intended to cause offence.
The internet's proclivity for cynicism, sarcasm and burying everything under multiple layers of irony has led us to the point that sincerity now often requires the additional caveat that expressions like "thanks", "well done" and "good game" are not intended sarcastically. Malice is the assumed default.
One way to begin remedying the situation would be for individuals to make a conscious effort to not assume malice on the behalf of others that they communicate with online.
I am not suggesting that you should be so naïve and oblivious as to assume that everything is well intentioned. But unless you have a reason to believe that someone is trying to offend you, assume otherwise. I think it will help improve your outlook on life in general.
This extends to the PTCGP app, where communication is strictly limited to sending "thanks". Text based communication on forums and social media is already ambiguous, often leading to misunderstandings, and this even more so. Do not assume malice where you have no evidence of it.
And even if you do think someone is being malicious, why play into it? Why let yourself be dismayed or angered by it? Some random person on a Pokémon app was trying to be rude to you? So?
As @Werenka1 said, I do not think mandatory "thanks" is the solution. At that point it is not even a courtesy. It's the mandatory reward for interacting with other players. Meaningless.
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forcing it might make it feel fake…
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I agree that forcing sending Thanks is not a good idea, but how can you think receiving it when you don't send it is okay? How do you reconcile with that?
I believe in the philosophy of treating others the way you want to be treated. If you don't send it, you shouldn't be allowed to receive the free ticket as well.
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If you don't send it, you shouldn't be allowed to receive the free ticket as well.
So one of the main issues with this is the 5 ticket limit. That you can only receive 5 tickets from thanks, wonder picks, etc, a day. Once you receive those 5, thats it, you’re not getting any more tickets till tomorrow. You can still receive thanks but theres no ticket attached to them, and so at that point they only function to clog up your gift box.
So how does this interact then? If you send a thanks to someone who has reached their 5 a day limit, do you still get the ticket they send? They technically didn’t receive a ticket, so should you? The obvious answer is “yeah of course” but the situation really is the same… you get a ticket while the other gets nothing.
By this proposed system, because one person is getting nothing, then the other person should also receive nothing. The argument can be made of “but the other person still sent the actual thanks” but the issue in question is not the thanks, but the ticket attached to the thanks. And a thanks without a ticket is in all ways similar to no thanks at all. Arguably worse because of the aforementioned gift box clutter.How do you reconcile with that?
I find this interesting because the implication is that i should have a burdened conscience for sometimes not clicking a button in a silly little game about cards. And i dont… i will, on occasion, send thanks. Usually if the match was actually a decent once, or the wonder pick yielded a decent card.
I do not feel obligated to reward the 50th person i matched with that day for playing a lame meta deck with no creativity or thought put into it. If their deck can be summed up by “Play lame, win game” im probably not sending them a thanks. And i dont expect to be sent a thanks if i use a meta deck either. I will send a thanks, win or loose, if they used any sort of deck that found a way to include cards that don't often see use.
You found a way to make a deck that lets poliwrath see some use? Yeah I’ll send you a thanks.
You spammed darkrai, greninja, and drudigon for the 30th time today? Im not thanking you.0 -
Look, I understand a lot of what you're saying, like the unnecessary gift box clutter, but that's straying away from the point I'm making. And this has nothing to do with Wonder Picks. Or maybe I just don't agree or see your argument, so I guess we are not changing each other's minds.
My point is that the sending of the free ticket gift through battles should be mutual. If you want, it can be such that I can send you a thanks to let you know that "it was a good game" if what you care about is letting your opponent know whether you enjoyed playing the battle. But, if you don't also send the good game message, none of us should be rewarded the free ticket gift.If what you don't want is to encourage players to seek free tickets from battles too easily, then you shouldn't encourage people to never send the free ticket due to their toxic behaviour as well. Without making big changes to the Send Thanks mechanics, making the free ticket reciprocal is the only way to do it.
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