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Best Villain??

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  • Seority
    Seority Member Posts: 9
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    Team Skull 4eva!

  • D-ManBlue
    D-ManBlue Member Posts: 383 ✭✭✭
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    @TheJeffers Lusamine getting off scot-free in USUM makes a bit more sense tbh. And that's the real problem. When you write her to be more of a good guy with extreme methods, all of a sudden Gladion and Lillie running away to make their own path in life doesn't make much sense anymore. How can I get invested in their character arcs then?

  • D-ManBlue
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    @TheJeffers As for Team Plasma, I think having the group be divided into factions from the start would also be a good idea. Maybe part of the team is with N and genuinely wants to liberate Pokemon, while the other half works to further Ghetsis' plan, and N is completely unaware of their activities or the fact that such a side of Team Plasma even exists in the first place.

  • TheJeffers
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    @D-ManBlue Is that not more or less what happened in BW and BW2?

    I appreciate that some part of Plasma and N did sincerely hold those beliefs. But I think the story would have been more interesting if the Pokémon liberation thing had been entirely sincere, not a front for the world domination plot, if they never abandoned those beliefs and you had to take them down not because they were necessarily evil, but because their actions and/or methods would cause more harm than good.

  • OlderAngel11
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    Is Penny considered a villain? Because she was technically running a crime gang, but of course everybody had backstories. I feel like I'd be betraying Pokémon if I said anything other than Jessie and James and Meowth.

  • RiqMoran
    RiqMoran Member Posts: 231 ✭✭✭
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    Miss Fortune Sisters

  • DJpugqaz
    DJpugqaz Member Posts: 11
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    I would say team rocket

  • Stone489990
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    There is too many good ones.

  • MrDuck761
    MrDuck761 Member Posts: 20
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    Team Skull

  • ChampionSelene
    ChampionSelene Member Posts: 11
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    Definitely Ghetsis and SM Lusamine.

    I don't think I need to explain Ghetsis, but the dude was just the definition of toxic, narcissistic parent.

    But for Lusamine, one line really explains everything it could; something around "if only you had stayed with me, maybe I would've listened to you. Maybe Cosmog wouldn't need to (am I allowed to use that word?)"

    I feel so sorry for Lillie. The effects of Lusamine's "parenting" really showed, and Lillie probably believed every one of Lusamine's lies. Not even knowing what a "Narcissistic Parent" is. That line makes me worry about what things Lusamine had once told Lillie and explains her quiet, shy personality. It's so much easier to endure these situations when you get hurt and do nothing than when you do something and get hurt for not obeying them.

    This probably won't be approved since I talked about some dark and depressing topics, but just how did they get that 7+ on SM?