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Why are there 0 competitively viable Johto mons that aren’t Legendary

Forretress was a decent Spinner I guess?? And Scizor has remained a solid pick till today

The 3 elemental dogs would be complete garbage in today’s meta but GF did give Suicune a paradox forme with Entei and Raikou on the way

But Gen 2 is mostly forgettable with bad mons EVERYWHERE.

Starters consist of Charizard 2, Worse Venusaur and Outclassed by other Waters

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  • TheJeffers
    TheJeffers Member Posts: 1,287 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    It only introduced 100 new Pokemon and a lot of the catchable Pokemon in game were from Kanto and already filled their competitive niches. Of the new mons, many of them were there to demonstrate new mechanics, like baby Pokemon for the breeding mechanic, or didn't have a lot going for them besides their new steel or dark typing. Furthermore while Kanto represents a lot of nostalgia capital within the franchise and a lot of the gen 1 Pokemon have been retroactively buffed or received new evolutions, types or abilities. Johto however is a bit of an awkward middle child between gen 1 and gen 3 and has not received anywhere near the same level of support.

  • UnovanZorua
    UnovanZorua Member Posts: 2,157 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Well, it was the second gen. Of course, they couldn't put as much effort into the Pokémon as in the first or later generations, and it was probably rushed a bit to sell merch during Pokémania. Gen 1 also had some bad Pokémon, especially design wise (there are still good ones, but like.. Seel and Dewgong. Even their names aren't creative. Charizard may look cool, but it's just a dragon on fire. And did you know Charmeleon's Japanese name is just "Lizard"?).

  • Flametix
    Flametix Member Posts: 556 ✭✭✭
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    This is Azumarill erasure

  • Eremas
    Eremas Member Posts: 956 ✭✭✭
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    Feraligatr is a good Mon if you rush to teach it ice punch. It just isn't competitively viable. Now there is Wave Crash so it has a good physical water move.

  • Arbiter1337
    Arbiter1337 Member Posts: 40
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    Typlosion has the exact same stats as Charizard. Oh my god it’s so bad