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Z-A is going to have real-time battles and I want to complain about it

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UnovanZorua
UnovanZorua Member Posts: 2,590 ✭✭✭✭✭
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edited July 23 in Pokémon Square #1

I know I've probably complained about it before, but honestly, thinking about it makes me feel a little bit like crying. The thing I love the most about Pokémon battles is that they're turn based. When I play Pokémon and a battle starts I want to be able to take my time and think and strategise, not play a Pokémon-ified third person shooter. I really hope this isn't like the open world thing where every new game will need to have it because the average buyer thinks the closer it is to the indistinguishable hyper realistic open world slop people love the better. If I wanted that, I'd just buy an X Box or PlayStation, but I want to have fun, not play the most boring game ever made but wearing a suit, monocle, and top hat. This has been something that's been worrying me for a while now to be honest, especially with how SV tries to look more realistic in comparison to previous games and loses how Pokémon feels in the process.

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  • clasingla
    clasingla Member Posts: 3,937 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    kind of agree I’m more so trying to go back and play older Pokemon titles instead of newer ones (they are mostly cheaper and have more passion and soul in the games themselves) I feel like recently pokemon has lost its charm that it had or what makes pokemon Pokemon

  • Candy0_o
    Candy0_o Member Posts: 624 ✭✭✭
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    I think what pokemon is trying to gain more fans be experimenting with new battle formats

  • Thur55555555555
    Thur55555555555 Member Posts: 17
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    Based of la this could be a one time thing especially if you take into consideration pvp Pokémon go also does real time battles and the communication between the two devises is not always the best and since legends arceus had no pvp and swapped back to normal combat for the next mainline series it could be just for this game and an improved version of this for the final legends game.

  • TheJeffers
    TheJeffers Member Posts: 1,870 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I am a big fan of turn based games, too. But I don't think Z-A represents a change to the Pokémon series' core mechanics. I know the spin-off discussion is contentious, with people swearing up and down that games like PLA are main series, but that game and Z-A do function as spin-offs. They are different takes on the Pokémon formula, and I think it is good that they exist.

    One of the franchise's biggest problems is their rigid adherence to the conventions of the original game. I don't think they truly understand what made their own golden goose, so they dogmatically duplicate all of the narrative and gameplay elements of it, warts and all, into every new game, however outdated or redundant they might be in the modern games industry and even within the franchise itself.

    Innovation is slow within the series, and when it does happen, its often a Band Aid solution to try and make the old mechanics work rather than to overhall a system that desperately needs reinvention (see the exp. share).

    That's why I think games that radically (for Pokémon) change the formula and allow some experimentation are important. We knew gen 9 would be a regular Pokémon game, so PLA could come along and try new things without the outcrys of "Pokémon is dead". Same here. Gen 10 will be your regular turn based Pokémon games, so it is okay to try new mechanics in Z-A.

    I wish gen 9 had taken a little more from PLA, like the ability to attempt captures without entering a battle or the faster status update messages all packed into one dialogue. But at least they could try it out safely in PLA without risking gen 9's reputation. (They found other ways to ruin that, and it still became the second best selling game in the franchise, so one wonders why they should even bother.)

    I really don't think Z-A is going to turn the series into third person real time AAA slop. There is no way they would dare make gen 10 anything other than the turn based Pokeslop we have been enduring for over a decade now.

  • Voltareon2012
    Voltareon2012 Member Posts: 339 ✭✭✭
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    I have a theory that each Legends game will introduce a new way of doing something, but keep it only in the legends games. Arceus? Catching without battling. Z-A? Real time battling. Whatever's next? I don't know yet.
    And Champions looks like it's turn based, so I think we're good.

  • Tacolaser
    Tacolaser Member Posts: 790 ✭✭✭
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    I think real-time battles will be an interesting change to the normal mechanics. However, I doubt Pokemon would want to make any lasting variations on the current formula.

  • MonstaDash
    MonstaDash Member Posts: 584 ✭✭✭
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    i am honestly happy it will have real time battles cause it will be more engaging and put more control in the player, hopefully the next entry will be an action rpg

  • MajorBrendan
    MajorBrendan Member Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭✭
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    I have nothing to complain about real time action battles. Something tells me that if more people like Z-A than champions, Real time battle's here to stay.