Are Alt Accounts Allowed in this Game
Hello and good morning/afternoon
I have some question cause i did read ToS but
i don't know how to interpret but wanted to
ask as i have played other game were the
following is not allowed
However ToS is vague enough i don't
understand where it stands.
So my question if you can help answer are as
followed.
If 1. having multiple accounts by one user is
allowed
If 2. trading within this account, accounts
owned by the same person, is allowed
If 3. advicing or suggesting this
afoementioned act to other even if is allowed
or disallowed, well allowed.
Thank your time,
Sincerely BeeSloth
P.s. i enjoy the game i am asking before i
proceed to try this and you all dont approve
losing right to use virtual content and
services.
Answers
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the ToS cannot be vague about something it does not mention. Nowhere in ToS Article 17 “Prohibited actions” is there any mention of “multiple accounts”, or anything that could be reasonably interpreted to mean “multiple accounts”. So no, its not against ToS.
That being said. Many people probably will complain if you do. Even though, again, it’s not against any rules.
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I will apologize and say it is vague, as i read it , i to notice nothing mentioning accounts was ever said regarding multiple accounts.
But it left the door open in so many ways that they wouldn't even have to change anything to not make it allowed.
..... i guess i will post some.
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That is something i notice too, but i would wish for full confirmation as the ToS makes the ruling vague enough that they woukdnt even have to add it in if they are against it.
An example in-
Responsibility of the user
4. If you cause damage to us or others by using the
Service, you will be personally responsible for the
costs of compensating for the damage.
-Sevices is defined by them as:
(2) "Service" is the service provided through the Pokémon Trading Card Game Pocket application or the Official Website via the internet.
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Exploiting the game isn't allowed, so if you use multiple accounts to take advantage of it (like benefiting your main) that is against the ToS. If you use multiple accounts but you don't use them to exploit any aspect of the game it's fine.
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I don't think that fully can be said
Prohibited actions.
(1) Allowing others to use your account, support ID or password, or using others accounts, supportIDs, or passwords
This section doesnt say "and" but "or". This section also doesnt say accounts, but account.
Accounts made are tied to to the maker as your account. But account support IDs and password are tied to the account meaning, self belonging to the account. Kinda like yes that is your kid but your kids belonging doesn't necessarily make them yours.
Another way to phrase it
You can have as many other rooms as you want, ,but you cannot have as many other keys as you like.
Also what really threw me off was
This in is own way of wording summize by using singular form that is account that's meant to belong to you not accounts.
(5) Reproduction of data from the Service as well as providing said reproduction to others.
We already know service is defined as
(2) "Service"is the service provided through the Pokémon Trading Card Game Pocket application or the Official Website via the internet
Meaning the entertainment we receive, or the game we are playing dev are not selling us a product , but an entertainment service.
If we make more accounts we are reproducing data and trading with that accounts we reproduce can also be seen as peoviding said reproductions to others.
(16) Actions that we have notified Users, or announced through the Service or the Official Website, are prohibited,
This is the other one, that trips me. If at any point they have said and we missed it or haven't missed it but will announced.
Even if no ruiling is done now they can easily rule against it
(17) Any and all actions that would hamper the
operations of the Service.
This one is more against abuse that can go against the service plan or intention, service already identify as the service we receive by playing the game.
So assuming multiple accounts is cool, trading using them may not be. Using multiple accounts to give yourself showcase point to get tickets may not be either.
(18) Attempts to circumvent any restriction in the Service based on age, geography, or other restrictions imposed by us.
This is the other one, as the restriction or what counts as restriction isnt specify. Unless they mean the list of prohibited actions.
(19) Any and all actions we judge to be unsuitable,.
Lastly the big one... so even if is not now, is all okay... they can just clap and say actually alt accounts are judye unsuitable.
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This is why i wanted to see if there was anything Official as there is vagueness that they dont even have to add it to suggest is not allowed and can just say is implied... and even if it wasn't they can say it is now.
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(1) Allowing others to use your account, support ID or password, or using others accounts, supportIDs, or passwords
interesting note of the plurals and singulars there, ive looked over this particular section of the TOS multiple times and never noticed that. My interpretation of this is they assume you have an individual account, but this alone would not imply only being permitted one account
(5) Reproduction of data from the Service as well as providing said reproduction to others
what this means is that you cant take this game, steal the assets and code, change it a little, claim it as your own, and then give it to others. The creation of an account does not duplicate data in the way this is referring to
(16) Actions that we have notified Users, or announced through the Service or the Official Website, are prohibited,
to the best of my knowledge, they have not done this yet with the topic at hand, but yes, absolutely could at any moment
(17) Any and all actions that would hamper the operations of the Service
similar to point (5) this is target, to the best of my understanding, more towards manipulation/alteration of game files/code, not account creation
(18) Attempts to circumvent any restriction in the Service based on age, geography, or other restrictions imposed by us
If this app were banned/not offered in parts of the world, had age restricted content, or anything like that, thats what this means. But again, simple account creation does not go against this
(19) Any and all actions we judge to be unsuitable,.
Similar to point (16) to the best of my knowledge they havent yet, but can at any time
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This is sort of why i claimed vagueness, while i take it we are just interpreting and as you admit that this how you perceive it.
This sort of set that vagueness is spoke about or on.
After all, as we speak of this alterations,manipulation, and changes. The reason i don't fully commit to that being the interpretation is because there are already prohibited actions stating that as well as other parts in the ToS refering to exactly this.
Now this is where i say, my hope/goal was that they clarify if is allowed or not. That way even if they ever wish to say is NOT we have there word saying they allowed it, buying us time and pushing us towards a compromise.
But so long as up in the air, it becomes a risk. Assuming they don't care it should be easy to say is allowed.
Assuming they do care it be important they say is not allowed.
This is where I sorta stand, that such conclusion is left in limbo. I sorta just would like the answer from them cause they have such clauses in ToS with enough vagueness and freedom to not even having to update or change ToS to claim multiple accounts is not allowed.
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