[Icebreaker] What’s the weirdest or most random Pokémon fact you know?
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Can you give actual evidence that Mario and Pokémon exist in the same universe? It's not good to spread claims without evidence as it could be misinformation.
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• in the concept art of the Team Rocket executives, it is stated that though Petrel’s mole is very much real and hard to obscure, Petrel’s beard is fake. it makes me love him more, LOL!
• Juan’s overworld sprite in Pokémon Emerald is just an edited sprite of Steven Stone
• there are two Giovannis in the Pokémon universe— the Giovanni that is actually from the universe that lost and disbanded Team Rocket and went into hiding and Team Rainbow Rocket Giovanni, who is a Giovanni from an alternate universe where he was never defeated, and it seems like the Giovanni in Pokémon GO and Pokémon Masters EX is actually that version of Giovanni. this leads into my third fact:• the Giovanni that the Team Rocket executives meet in Pokémon Masters EX isn’t the Giovanni they spent 3 years rebuilding the criminal organization to call for. rather, it is Team Rainbow Rocket Giovanni. that Giovanni is the one that listened to their calls, so despite getting disbanded, they consider their goal a success
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Mario exist in pokemon, just straight up through games, it might be the other way around though
Also Nintendo exists in pokemon And Mario, so technically they exist in each other
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Where? In what games, and where in those games? Give a specific example that counts as actual evidence and not a reference, or at the very least, one where it's not clear (for example, Mario characters being in Zelda games, like Chain Chomp appearing in multiple Zelda games, the Link's Awakening remake having one as an NPC's pet being the most recent example. This is just a reference, and this probably doesn't mean Mario, Peach, and Bowser are going to fight with the Triforce, but it does mean that at least some Mario things are in the Zelda universe).
Also, Nintendo being a company that exists in both is weak evidence. First of all, it's a reference to the real world Nintendo, and second, a company existing in two universes does not confirm they're the same one. You can't really say Pokémon are in real life because Nintendo is in Pokémon and real life.
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Technically you can consider everything as a reference even if it is same universe stuff like star fox in Mario movie, you can consider that a reference or you can consider it lore and stuff
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StarFox only appears in the Mario movie, though, not the games. the movie is a separate canon from the games.
the only reference to Super Mario in the Pokémon games that i can think of is in RGBY, where Copycat has a SNES/Super Famicom in her house that depicts a game where Mario has a bucket on his head, which is a reference Mario & Wario, a JP only game that was made by GameFreak. maybe that could imply that Mario as a video game series exists in the Pokémon universe, but that doesn’t mean that Mario himself exists as a living character nor does the Mushroom Kingdom exist as a location in it. we’re not entirely sure if Rhythm Heaven or Warioware exists in Pokémon because no references to those games have been made in the Pokémon universe. i might be over analyzing this though LOL
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Like Mario himself isn’t in pokemon, the franchise is and it might be reverse I forgot
I just know dumb stuff about Nintendo probably more then anyone here
I know about Aura-aura slide adventure mag kid and style savvy
I know some random stuff
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I haven't watched it yet, but it depends on the context. How important was he? A reference is usually not a big part of the story, otherwise it's more like a collab (like SSB). How does he enter? Is he from a different universe or just a far away planet/galaxy? If it's the former, then it's a collab/reference (depends on the importance) between the two franchises. If it's the latter, then, regardless of his importance to the story, Star Fox and Mario are confirmed to be in the same universe.
I said that Chain Chomp, one enemy from Mario, appears in Zelda a few times, and that can be an example of unclear evidence. It's treated as a reference in the games, but it's still a Mario character in the Zelda universe. I'll stop questioning you if you at least give me something of that level occuring in an official game or show.
And finally, the Nintendo thing. I'll just elaborate on it here. RSE have GameFreak in them, and ORAS also has GameFreak. RGBY and USUM also both have GameFreak in them. But that doesn't mean they're in the same universe. In fact, some of the examples I gave can't be in the same universe.
And that's it. Can you please show your evidence now?
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Fox (according to movie) is from an alternate universe and came to Mario’s
Also I already have a lot of evidence I know so much dumb stuff about Nintendo
Also Nintendo once said somewhere for one of there games
“Reference is lore”
Not exactly like that of course, but similar
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Where? Give a source and context. Give a full explanation of what they meant. Are you saying the red shirt and jean overalls you can't interact with or buy in Alola's clothing shops mean Mario is in Pokémon?
Also, if you have "so much evidence," please show it. Why are you just saying it exists and expecting me to believe that without proof? I'm not denying it's existence, but it's a bad idea to believe something without being shown evidence.
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